Zoho Sheet - #edchat Session - Tuesday, 9/22/2009

curtis_dutiel	9/22/2009	6:57 PM	RT @web20classroom: Are you excited?? #edchat starts in 15 Minutes! What role does Social Media play in education?
web20classroom	9/22/2009	6:57 PM	#edchat starts in 5 minutes: What role does Social Media play in Education?
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:01 PM	I want to thank everyone for joining us tonight #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:01 PM	#edchat is begining...our topic: What role should Social Media play in Education?
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:02 PM	Our tonight is What role does/should social media play in education? #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:03 PM	Social media needs to become an integral part of how we do the business of school. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:03 PM	Lets start with a good definition of social media...what is it as it applies to education? #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:04 PM	We need to regard it as a work skill that needs to be practiced and learned.#edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:04 PM	There are many roles for social media in education. #edchat
cybraryman1	9/22/2009	7:04 PM	To keep educators, students and parents aware of the latest educational news and happenings. #edchat
StrataLogica	9/22/2009	7:04 PM	RT @web20classroom #edchat is begining...our topic: What role should Social Media play in Education?
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:04 PM	One role of Social Media is for professional development of teachers and Staff like #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	RT @StrataLogica: RT @web20classroom #edchat is begining...our topic: What role should Social Media play in Education?
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	@Digin4ed Absolutely. There is real power in using social media to participate in professional development. #edchat
leytonrhys	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	RT @web20classroom: Lets start with a good definition of social media...what is it as it applies to education? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	RT @blairteach: We need to regard it as a work skill that needs to be practiced and learned.#edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	PLN my next tweets for the hr are dedicated to #edchat Join the conversation
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:05 PM	RT @web20classroom: Lets start with a good definition of social media...what is it as it applies to education? #edchat
thadhaines	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	It is essential to building connections with our students from school to personal to enhance their continous learning #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	Perhaps there are 2 different angles here...social media in the classroom and social media use for professional development #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	Definitely! RT @Parentella: Social media is important for bringing diverse people together and starting a conversation. #Edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	Social media is such a broad term - it currently effects nearly every classroom, student, and teacher in some way #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	I agree! RT @Digin4ed: One role of Social Media is for professional development of teachers and Staff like #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	What role does/should social media play in education? #edchat Please, join in
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	Social media is important for bringing diverse people together and starting a conversation. #Edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:06 PM	Social Media is the toolbox for the real time web. The most effective way to communicate and interact. #Edchat
gameclassroom	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	@Parentella This, in fact, is a great example. #Edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	could some1 give examples of social media forms? RT @tonnet: What role does/should social media play in education? #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	#edchat social media is a way for people all over the world to better share ideas and understand each other
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	Social Media is the use of digital technologies to collaborate or share information, here applied in education. #edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	One role of Social Media is for professional development of teachers and Staff like #edchat (via @Digin4ed) Agreed!
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	I just got here. I know a whole bunch of stuff supporting SM social Media in Education . Has anyone started? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	@KirstenWinkler I like that...real time communication..I think that is important... #Edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	@web20classroom et al in #edchat I want to thank you all of you for making time for this each week. I LOVE IT!
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler: Social Media is the toolbox for the real time web. The most effective way to communicate and interact. #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:07 PM	RT @Parentella: Social media is important for bringing diverse people together and starting a conversation. #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	For me social media is the great equalizer....students no longer are stuck behind the walls of their classroom....#edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	Social media is a link out of schools/PLCs 2 educational expertise around the globe. It moves us from a community a collaborative #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	@thadhaines Exactly! We may as well teach them how to build a PLN every career requires one these days #edchat
gameclassroom	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	@rjwassink What falls under the umbrella of "Social Media" in this context? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	For the moment...lets look at social media in the classroom...what role does it play? #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	Don't think that there are different angles. Otherwise there would be different angles for speech and communication, too #Edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	#edchat I agree that there needs to be a framework developed for social media in your own district based on tchr & student need & potential
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:08 PM	@KirstenWinkler but it also includes collaboration in the definition - so even not real-time, but wikis and google docs can be SM #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	RT @web20classroom: For me social media is the great equalizer....stdts no longer are stuck behind the walls of their classroom....#edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	How many district tech plans and tech standards explicitly discuss SM?#edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	@rjwassink I agree...collaboration has a part also... #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	Another role Social Media can play in education is educating others (skills, resources, demos,conferencing) #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	@thadhaines We should also show stdts how to use soc media responsibly bcuz they already integrate it into their daily lives #edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	RT @web20classroom: Perhaps there are 2 different angles here...social media in the classroom & use for professional development #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	They can get out and explore the rest of the world, meet people, connect, communicate....#edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:09 PM	@Teddi14 go to #edchat first and then off to bed
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	Social media is dedicated to the democratization of knowledge and information. It needs the internet vehicle to accomplish its goal #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	@thadhaines @ShellTerrell That is a good point....we need to use it to teach responsibility...#edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	RT @Digin4ed: Another role Social Media can play in education is educating others (skills, resources, demos,conferencing) #edchat
mritzius	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	social media has the ability to empower even the most marginal #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	I think too often social media becomes too much the center of attention. It should be a means to ed goals not an end in itself. #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	Social media in the classroom allows teachers and students to reach out side of the wall to K.W.O.K, Know What Others Know. #edchat
danamhuff	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	Tom, just had a chat today about Facebook that prompted a blog post. Your thoughts on that? #edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	RT @web20classroom For me social media is the great equalizer; students no longer are stuck behind walls of their classroom #edchat AGREED
denabud	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	Social Media makes students learning relevant and meaningful. #Edchat
JMarcHopkins	9/22/2009	7:10 PM	#edchat Define SOCIAL MEDIA in this context. Technically, any online interaction (Including Angel/Blackboard/Moodle) is "Social Media"
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	RT @tonnet: Social media is dedicated 2 the democratization of knowledge & information. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	On the professional development side it is on the most time efficient ways to access quality information #Edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	@web20classroom A better question may be, "What role do we think social media SHOULD play in the clsrm since limited accessibility #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	How might this be done? RT @ShellTerrell: @thadhaines We should also show stdts how to use soc media responsibly #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	Soc media offers stdts a way to work on global teams to prob solve. An invaluable experience companies crave yet rarely taught #edchat
wmchamberlain	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	Social media is a label we use to legitimize hours upon hours of typing on a keyboard while our wives(husbands)give us the stink eye.#edchat
danamhuff	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	Sorry, that last post was @tomwhitby, but feel free to chime if if you want to. #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:11 PM	In the classroom, Social Media can be used to bring experts, peers, etc into the classroom from anywhere in the world. #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	In fact, I would say most of our learning happens within the context of relationships, not alone with a book. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	RT@ShellTerrell:Soc media offers stdts a way 2 work on global teams 2 prob solve.An invaluable exp companies crave yet rarely taught #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	And that too RT @mritzius social media has the ability to empower even the most marginal #edchat
thadhaines	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	@web20classroom at the moment no e in my school - banned. My wife uses it at her school as a communication tool with her students #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	Learning has always been social -- it's odd that educators aren't embracing this new innovation of education more quickly. #edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	@classroomtools Right! We should be asking how they can enhance learning and engagement, not just using it for the sake of using it #edchat
StrataLogica	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	Agree - the obvious use for SM in the classroom is for students to appreciate and recognize other cultures through sharing #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	@blairteach Ah...so we are saying there is an access issue...I agree... #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	My students love helping each other out using SM techniques rather than raising a hand and asking me. privately #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	#edchat my preservice tchr and I just started using g docs today, and soon my kids will be building own wikis
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	#edchat For me, social media is the GREAT MOTIVATOR. In a world where education has become mundane & boring, it helps kids connect to world.
cybraryman1	9/22/2009	7:12 PM	Thinking and collaborating outside the classroom. I always stressed that learning takes place everywhere. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	Is it because of a lack of knowledge, a misunderstanding or ignorance to their use in ed? #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	Many people feel more comfortable sharing via SM than they do in real life, I believe. You get more participation and better quality #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	@MrArakaki We could have them study cases of cyberbullying & neg impacts & how it could've been prevented #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	I keep hearing over and over that there is a problem with access to tools....#edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	Join #edchat !
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	@ShellTerrell: Yes, very important in 21st century for bus and other causes #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	#edchat on the Twitter PLN, it plays the role of helping us share ideas/resources that we can use in our classrooms
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	RT @web20classroom: 2 different angles ... in the classroom and for professional development #edchat
raventech	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	RT @tonnet: What role does/should social media play in education? #edchat Please, join in
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	@mrarakaki We use soc media in class. Have stdts brainstorm what guidelines help collaboration & what behaviors would detract #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	Social Media is the biggest revolution since the printed book. Clay Shirky #Edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:13 PM	@web20classroom Class time does not have to be a prison. Used properly it can be used to accomplish things not possible elsewhere #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	@Digin4ed Plus stdts should experience cultural differences, learn to live outside their microcosm #edchat
cybraryman1	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	The key question is how do we spread the word about the benefits of using Social Media for educational purposes? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	RT @jkdham: #edchat on the Twitter PLN, it plays the role of helping us share ideas/resources that we can use in our classrooms
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	I think the big problem is not that educators don't embrace Social Media, it's that they are held back to use it by "deciders" #Edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	Social Media in the classroom: underlying technology to support writing, speaking, listening, reading, thinking, collaborating #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	@rjwassink I would agree with there...there is a level of safety... #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	Yes! RT @jarrodmartin1: In fact, I'd say most of our learning happens within the context of relationships, not alone with a book. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	RT @tonnet: And that too RT @mritzius social media has the ability to empower even the most marginal #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:14 PM	RT @jarrodmartin1: In fact, I would say most of our learning happens within the context of relationships, not alone with a book. #edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	RT @web20classroom I keep hearing that there is a prob. with sites blocked. SO TRUE! How do we fix? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	Social Media allows for multiple simultaneous speakers, multiple simultaneous listeners, multiple simultaneous collaborators #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	@classroomtools I keep hearing over and over that there is a problem with access to tools.#edchat that is why we need our admins in our PLN
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	@ShellTerrell @jkdham i would love it if my kids would learn responsibility on something like twitter, but also use it for learning #edchat
raventech	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	@tonnet Lots of good resources on edsocialmedia.com w/ more to come. I believe it can b very pwrful in a class environment #edchat
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:15 PM	@mrarakaki #edchat wikipediaSocial media includ. Internet forums, weblogs, social blogs, wikis, podcasts, pics, vid, rating and bookmrking.
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	@cybraryman1 I think you cannot stop it anyway. The next generations are growing up with it, the nay sayers will die out eventually #Edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	@tonnet: @mritzius And social media can empower those with interests different from classmates. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	RT @cybraryman1: The key question is how do we spread the word about the benefits of using Social Media for educational purposes? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	The question still remains....if social media has its benefits why the lack of access? #edchat?
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	RT @jarrodmartin1:Learning has always been social--it's odd that educators aren't embracing this new innovation of educ more quickly #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	Gr8 pt! RT @cybraryman1: key ? is how do we spread the word about the benefits of using Social Media for educational purposes? #edchat
teckdiva	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	#edchat we need to use social media responsibility and through example. If you do it right, they will come!
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	Safety is an issue EVERYWHERE! Why is there such disproportionate fear of social media? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	@KirstenWinkler Once again its not that teachers don't want to use but they are not allowed to... #Edchat
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	@rjwassink #edchat I agree.
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:16 PM	Most of our learning happens within the context of relationships... #edchat via @jarrodmartin1
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	@mrsbrowndog Thats the question...we need to show the benefits and positive uses, like this to the powers that be #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	re: edsocialmedia.com @raventech I will give it a try #edchat. Keep the sources coming :D
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	@web20classroom ignorance he reason we don't see more access to these SM tools right now. We're fighting a lack of vision... #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	@blairteach Gr8 pt! Plus safety is only issue bcuz stdts arent taught to use it properly & responsibly #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	#edchat @mrsbrowndog it's circular though, we use it for pd which we bring 2 our students, who inspire us to get more pd...
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	WRT blocking @mrsbrowndog @web20classroom What about "internal" installations of socMed tech for younger learners? #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:17 PM	@cybraryman1 how do we spread the benefits of using Social Media for ed purposes? #edchat- we need to share our knowledge with others
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@KirstenWinkler I agree with you on that. We are surrounded by ways to connect with each other. #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	The control issue is what frightens many educators. Or would that be lack of control? #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	SHARE! RT @denabud: @cybraryman1 how do we spread the benefits of SM for ed purposes? #edchat- we need to share our knowledge with others
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	techrs working together increasing student learning + achvmnt while sharing physical space, virtual space, or both simultaneously. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	#edchat SM is like any other tool we teach our kids. Help them learn appropriate uses both socially and professionally.
teckdiva	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	#edchat you need to get the peole in charge on board
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@mrarakaki We need more teachers who are willing to do that... #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	Traditional learning models and tech inform our experience as teachers @rjwassink @jarrodmartin1 #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	Visionary teachers are going to have to prove to admins/tchrs that these tools are a viable vehicle for education. #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	Use it.. then when people ask... show them! #edchat
leytonrhys	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	SHARE! RT @denabud: @cybraryman1 how do we spread the benefits of SM for ed purposes? #edchat- we need to share our knowledge with others
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	#edchat admin. need to participate here. feel the power of connecting w/others around learning. how do we get more here?
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@web20classroom Does it go back to the lack of use (and understanding) of the people so often in charge? #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@web20classroom That's what it is always about. Stop innovation from above, if deciders don't understand / fear it #Edchat
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@web20classroom #edchat because of the possibility of CIPA violation (Children's Internet Protection Act)
StrataLogica	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	The lack of access is due to money and fear. SM by nature is an open discussion, and a few bad apples can ruin a very powerful tool #edchat
gameclassroom	9/22/2009	7:18 PM	@mrarakaki @ShellTerrell @jkdham What do you think are the most productive ways for students to use Twitter? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	WRT decisions on tech use -- how significant is the the amount of teacher/Admin discussion? #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@tomwhitby Also insecurity I feel. Not knowing how to use and fear of not knowing enough #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	Teaching appropriate use & common sense safety procedures--just as we teach children not to touch a hot stove--is what we need. #edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@jkdham AGREED! I'm a PD-er! I SO get it! But my district is behind times; just went full email 2 yrs ago! = ( #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	Social media = Virtual participation = presence = collaboration = results #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@tomwhitby definitely lack of #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	WRT decisions on tech use -- how significant is the divide between teacher/Admin perception? #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@web20classroom Read post tchr didnt want 2 b responsible 4 not alerting admin of behavior seen in soc med so didnt connect w/ stdts #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@blairteach I believe much of the fear of Social Media is not understanding it and not being in control of information #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	@cybraryman1 Beyond spreading word I think we have to encourage teachers to join #edchat and get familiar w/ ITC's
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:19 PM	I was WAY more worried about my daughter driving alone at night than anything she might encounter online. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	RT @jkdham: #edchat SM is like any other tool we teach our kids. Help them learn appropriate uses both socially and professionally.
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	RT @teckdiva: #edchat you need to get the peole in charge on board----I agree with that....a change in leadership
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@Re_SearchingEd So very true. Are you aware of any efforts to train teachers to use it within a disciplinary context? #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@web20classroom Lack of Access is because gate keepers don't want to risk liability from social media. #edchat
mritzius	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	Retweet @web20classroom @rjwassink I would agree with there...there is a level of safety... #edchat (quiet kids have a voice)
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@GameClassroom effectively communicating to a global/local audience? i'm not sure on this. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@web20classroom Then maybe tchrs less afraid. Tchrs need their roles defined as well #edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@web20classroom How to motivate veteran teachers who are comfortable with their current practices who may not see incentive to learn #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	When I met up w/a Twitter friend f2f, my 23 yr old daughter gave me a safety lecture first. :) #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	Hands on & practical RT @GiftedTeechur Use it.. then when people ask... show them! #edchat #socialmedia
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@web20classroom We'll face these issues of witnessing stdt behavior & admin should put guidelines of our responsibility w/ this #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	RT @classroomtools: I think 2 often social media b/c 2 much center of attention. should be a means to ed goals not an end in itself. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	@doriedance Which is silly....there are levels of protection that can be offered... #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:20 PM	Trouble lurks with screwdrivers and bandsaws, too. All technologies need to be managed if you want total safety. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	@KirstenWinkler @ParentellaAnd we need to show our students the world out side of their own! #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	Gr8 idea! RT @denabud: We need to present at school board meetings and demo the effectiveness of these great tools! #Edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	RT @ShellTerrell: Soc media offers stdts way 2 work on global teams 2 probsolve. invaluable exp. companies crave yet rarely taught #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	RT @tomwhitby: The control issue is what frightens many educators. Or would that be lack of control? #edchat Lack of control....
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	RT @blairteach: Teaching appropriate use & common sense safety procedures as we teach children not to touch hot stove is needed. #edchat
sharon_elin	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	Soc. Net. negatives & fears I've heard: distractions, inappropriate content, shallow presentation & fragmented exploration, security #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	@ShellTerrell Agreed...the role has a lack of def.... #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	@Digin4ed I agree. The sad part is that so many are not interested in increasing their understanding to see what is available. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	We need to present at school board meetings and demo the effectiveness of these great tools! #Edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	@rjwassink those pencils are a lot sharper than the computer mouse ... #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:21 PM	@tomwhitby Watch the video in my blog post from Clay Shirky. Perfect explanation to your question at the end http://bit.ly/dXyod #Edchat
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	@web20classroom #edchat sometimes sites offer protection and sometimes sites don't. Just last week had to analyze sites for masters class.
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	To open up Social Media access, it needs to be a liability to gatekeepers if they don't allow it. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	@mritzius Exactly....SM give everyone a voice...an opportunity to be heard! #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	@tonnet I'm modeling & sharing constantly; colleagues ooo & ahhh but won't join in. Very frustrating #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	I did have a parent ground their child from Edmodo because she was not doing her homework.- but that's understandable #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	@Parentella And this is just the beginning! Imagine one year from now! #Edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	RT @jkdham @classroomtools: social media should be a means to ed goals, not an end in itself. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:22 PM	RT @tonnet: @cybraryman1 Beyond spreading word I think we have to encourage teachers to join #edchat and get familiar w/ ITC's
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	Social media aside (for the moment), how is the general uptake of tech among your peers? @web20classroom @tonnet @cybraryman1 #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	@web20classroom Absolutely. Think outside of the box, get out of the comfort zone, find answers to your questions alone. #Edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	@GameClassroom To connect w/ authors, SME's, ? questions, get answers, communicate w/ other stdts around world, build PLN #edchat
ErnieEaster	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 idea! via @denabud: We need to present at school board meetings and demo effectiveness of these great tools! #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	@mbteach We are discussing the role of Social Media in education.... #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	RT @ShellTerrell @blairteach: tchng appropriate use & common sense sfty procedures as we tch chldrn not 2 touch hot stove. #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	RT @blairteach @tonnet I'm modeling & sharing constantly; colleagues ooo & ahhh but won't join in. Very frustrating #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	@sharon_elin Well the fragmented exploration is up to who is doing the exploring...not much of a reason if you ask me... #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	RT @mrsbrowndog: #edchat for some kids it is the difference between indifference and motivated
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:23 PM	late for #edchat can someone fill me in? Thanks!
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	RT @lbott: Presenting impressive project results created by students could convince parents of worthiness #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	If we demo to our communities-we can educate those that "fear" sm and typically argue against with no true knowledge of the resource #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@sharon_elin twitter as broadcast tool is a start. #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@Re_SearchingEd We need good in-service that engages teachers in disciplinary projects that will re-ignite their love of learning. #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	My students are benefitting from the exchange of ideas; learning from everyone, not just the teacher #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@mbteach What role does Social Media play in Education? #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@blairteach That sounds interesting. Would they join if we offer them a easy way to communicate with students? #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	Limited Access social networks of all types could easily be managed within districts #edchat
cybraryman1	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	Schools of Education have to do what Tom Whitby and others are doing with their preservice teachers. #edchat
sharon_elin	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@ShellTerrell My dist. super. uses twitter & dist. has a twitter profile, but used as a broadcast for announcements, not dialogue #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@doriedance I think its part of tchr job to always check sites b4 we share them #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@mbteach Nothing much yet. you are now filled in. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	@GiftedTeechur part of teaching with social media is teaching stdnts how to use it responsibly #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	Information flow from schools needs to become a conversation not a 1 way street. Transparency and communication=honest relationships #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	Presenting impressive project results created by students could convince parents of worthiness #edchat
barbaraday	9/22/2009	7:24 PM	Do you think there is a certain age range that works better for kids using social media? #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	I do think we sometimes blame admins for lack of access/use of social media, but I see many teachers VERY resistant to change. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	RT @StrataLogica: obvious use 4 SM in c/r is 4 sts 2 appreciate/recognize other cultures thru sharing #edchat would stop a lot of conflict
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	RT @lbott: My students are benefitting from the exchange of ideas; learning from everyone, not just the teacher #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	RT @Parentella: Info flow from schls needs 2 become a convo not a 1 wy street. Transparency & communication=honest relationships #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	Same story 400 years ago. The church wanted to ban books to keep the "control". History repeats itself. We / they should know better #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@denabud I agree, the community at large needs to be educated #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@mbteach What role does/should social media play in education? #edchat' tonight topic
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@lbott EXACTLY! I use it.. and teachers/parents ask about it.. I show them! #edchat
doriedance	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@ShellTerrell #edchat I totally agree.
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@sharon_elin One could make same criticism of poorly constructed lessons which lack SM. #edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@classroomtools Mainly grassroots efforts by admins who see benefits and offer PDs around it or offer salary points #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@barbaraday I think there are certain tools that work better for various ages than others but every age benefits fr social media #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	it wld b gr8t 2 hold an #Edchat during schl hrs to present during a stff mtg 1 day 2 show the impact it has on PD
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@tomwhitby You don't hear about safety at the bookstore, do we? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:25 PM	@aforgrave In my district several are using, most know they need to..I have very few who are resistant... #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	WRT "bookstore" (or school library, say) Are books "reviewed" ?@Digin4ed: @tomwhitby #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	@classroomtools those inservices have to include teachers using sm for a purpose #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	Social Media = most important method of learning for our kids already, whether we model it or not. Lifelong Learning starts here. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	RT @web20classroom: I keep hearing over and over that there is a problem with access to tools....#edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	RT @Parentella: Information flow from schools needs to become a conversation not a 1 way street. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	@sharon_elin And see....they are missing out on a huge opportunity.... #edchat
esmith1126	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	the fear of the majority outweighs the wishes & knowledge of the minority #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	i luv this RT @mrarakaki it wld b gr8t 2 hold an #Edchat during schl hrs to present during a stff mtg 1 day 2 show the impact it has on PD
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	@web20classroom What kind of support/PD/projects are promoted in your district? #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	@barbaraday I've used w/ 4 yr olds VoiceThread w/ other schools across world to create a digital story or learn about culture #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:26 PM	RT @cybraryman1: Schools of Education have to do what Tom Whitby and others are doing with their preservice teachers. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@cybraryman1 agreed. New teachers need to be 'fluent' in social media/web 2.0 #edchat
celfoster	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	RT @jarrodmartin1: In fact, I would say most of our learning happens within the context of relationships, not alone with a book. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@barbaraday Also used w/ high school & adults to get them to practice Eng, connect, build PLN, teach them research #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@sharon_elin I agree. THis is why information needs to be democratic and equal for all. #edchat SM allows that and that alone is a gr8 thing
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	I mean 600 years, time really flies ;) #Edchat As long as deciders fear change, every revolution has a hard time.
StrataLogica	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@barbaraday SM is powerful when students are old enough to understand the concept of being able to use SM as a collaboration tool #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@tonnet Don't know. I've personally helped half-dzn ppl get started on Twitter (incldng some ppl), but then they go no further. #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	RT @barbaraday Do you think there is a certain age range that works better for kids using social media? #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	We went thru procedures.. set up expectations.. and they run with it! #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@KirstenWinkler But yet we continue to make the same mistakes....why #Edchat
TNschatz	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @jarrodmartin1: In fact, Id say most R learning happens w/in context of relationships, not alone w/a book. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@sharon_elin Still a start! #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	One of most effective ways to open access is get groundswell support in a district from parents and businesses #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@barbaraday I think there needs to be differentiation in using social media across grade levels #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@blairteach i also see teachers resist change. #edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:27 PM	@classroomtools The pressure for nonadopting tchrs can come from parents too- "Why isn't my kid getting x y z like Tyler is?" #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	Many social media sites understand that they need to create kid-friendly versions to remain relevant & usable in the classroom #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@denabud In history, show them http://bit.ly/180EOh and maybe have them re-enact another event while in the session. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@nancydevine The resistance to change extends beyond adoption of social media, too. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	WHY do teachers resist change? @nancydevine @blairteach #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@StrataLogica I think that it starts with parents understanding what SM is and helping kids navigate effectively. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@mbteach @mbteach @cybraryman1 It should be a required Pre-Serivce teacher course! #edchat
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	RT @jkdham For some kids SM is the difference between indiffernce and being motivated. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@tonnet I meant including adding some people for them to follow. #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	minority is comprised of admin. & teachers RT @esmith1126 the fear of the majority outweighs the wishes & knowledge of the minority #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@nancydevine it wld b gr8t 2 hold an #Edchat during schl hrs to present during a stff mtg 2 show the impact it has on PD-my school does this
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:28 PM	@aforgrave Since I do all of it...I have a wide range from my 23 Things project to integration techniques when I work 1 on 1 #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@jkdham I can understand that but really all is needed is a computer, projector and a dream and vision to learn #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	RT @denabud: @nancydevine it 'd b gr8 2 hold an #Edchat during schl hrs to present in stff mtg 2 show impact on PD-my school does this
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@blairteach exactly. resistance to change persists. (don't completely understand it...getting sick of trying) #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	The horse needs to be thirsty. @blairteach: @tonnet #edchat
sharon_elin	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@blairteach Are teachers resistant to change because they're lazy? Too busy? Afraid? Skeptical? What do you see as their reasons? #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@sharon_elin that's a start! There are maybe 1 or 2 of our district Inst. Tech Specialists who are even on Twitter, forget admins! #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@Re_SearchingEd I've dealt with such pressures before, but usually from A students uncomfortable with new methods. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@aforgrave Fear of unknown; lack of TIME to learn is most frequent excuse for not adopting new practices. #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@blairteach perhaps having a new ed tweeters night would help? #edchat perhaps #newed hashtag?
denabud	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	Our assit. Super is requiring all LMS to have blogs for all subject areas that share sm sites and integration ideas #Edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	@nancydevine it wld b gr8t 2 hold an #Edchat during schl hrs to present during a stff mtg 2 show the impact it has on PD(via @denabud) Def!
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	There are so many things that I share with colleagues and pass them along saying I got it from my PLN on Twitter #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	I have a feeling some schools arent aware or willing to accept benefits of Social media in learning due to prejudice or scepticism #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	RT @cybraryman1: The key ? is how do we spread word about benefits of using SM 4 educational purposes? #edchat have fairly good start here
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:29 PM	RT @blairteach: I do think we sometimes blame admins for lack of access/use of SMedia but I see many Ts VERY resistant to change. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@ShellTerrell Would have to use screen shots since you likely can't access social media at the board meeting. #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@aforgrave tchrs resist bcoz they realy don't see the value. For change to happen, the vision and steps to that vision mst b clear. #edchat
dlourcey	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	#edchat Fear has to be overcome & ed. & awareness can do that--so that leaders can see the value-add of such tools. It's more than a tool.
mrsbrowndog	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	WOW, so many great questions arising from tonight's #edchat RE social media in schools
lbott	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	I'm searching for #edchat live on TweetGrid Search - http://tweetgrid.com/search?q=%23edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@mbteach So maybe educators need to put pressure on the SM websites to create that content.. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@cecilianobre I think you're right that the skepticism is what prevents acceptance #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@GiftedTeechur There r so many things that I share with colleagues & pass them along saying I got it from my PLN on Twitter #edchat me too!
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	@mbteach Agreed! kid-friendly versions should be addressed #edchat
stevejmoore	9/22/2009	7:30 PM	Sad I can't join the #edchat tonight, gotta watch my freshman play some football!
BrandonFrame	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	RT @mbteach: @cybraryman1 agreed. New teachers need to be 'fluent' in social media/web 2.0 #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	@web20classroom we need to work together. I've been wrking w/Glogster 4 a month now. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	Amen, amen--tools. RT @aforgrave: RT @jkdham @classroomtools: social media should be a means to ed goals, not an end in itself. #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	@blairteach Interesting that kids find the TIME to learn SM. #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	Perhaps education needs to refocus on teaching students to live in the world they are inheriting. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	RT @blairteach: Teaching appropriate use & common sense safety -just as we teach kids not to touch a hot stove--is what we need. #edchat
barbaraday	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	I'm pretty new to all the technology stuff, but I know my 4th graders are very excited about the things I am doing. We are blogging. #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	RT @web20classroom @mbteach So maybe educators need to put pressure on the SM websites to create that content.. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	@aforgrave aforgrave The horse needs to be thirsty. @blairteach: @tonnet #edchat in some cases really thirsty.
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	If schls put effort in other health & safety issues as they do in banning SM maybe obesity and drug abuse might be addressed instead #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	@rrmurry If I am being too generous, then why we all at #edchat are gathering? Sometimes change comes from the bottom (teachers).
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:31 PM	@mrarakaki Last week, @rjwassink projected #edchat to his parents/staff!
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@blairteach Yes, there is more than 1 group that resists. Some teachers don't want to have to learn new things. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@aforgrave There is plenty of "water" in the old ways, so they don't GET thirsty; they get complacent. #edchat
jarrodmartin1	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@aforgrave We spnd time communicatng a vision 2 the ppl who hav alrdy bought in. How much do we spend tryng 2 comm. w/ the othrs? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@mbteach I know you are struggling but we have to keep fighting...we have to show the benefits.. #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	Social media at schools has to demolish the filtering barrier in the first place #edchat
sharon_elin	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	Pandora's box. That's what many teachers & admins & parents see when they think of social media. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@blairteach LOL! You have a point there! #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@sharon_elin some teachers are skeptical, some not just interested or not technology-oriented #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@mbteach @mrarakaki It was running during my open house - didn't really "present it" too much. Did raise a lot of questions #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@web20classroom It is in Canada because I'm mentoring some pre-serv. teachers at the Univ of Regina #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	#edchat Many Ts aware of benefits but dont know where/how to begin. They need help, guidance, ideas to start.
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	@dlourcey Exactly! We have to overcome the fear... #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:32 PM	RT @mbteach: @mrarakaki Last week, @rjwassink projected #edchat to his parents/staff! How'd it go? Was it well recieved?
BrandonFrame	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	#edchat is great 2night. This a topic that needs to be addressed. Many schools districts are like big companies. Their risk-averse to SM
philhart	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	@sharon_elin Do people forget what was at the bottom of Pandora's box? #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	#edchat Sales often has a psychological motivator (price/deadline) to motivate people to buy. Ed only HOPES Ts to pick up new ideas.
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	RT @sharon_elin: Pandora's box. That's what many teachers & admins & parents see when they think of social media. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	@rjwassink still...very cool. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	RT @tonnet: Social media at schools has to demolish the filtering barrier in the first place #edchat ----Agreed!
StrataLogica	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	@Parentella Agree - if parents take time to understand SM, then they won't fear it and can teach children to use it responsibly #edchat
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	@GameClassroom Thanks! Planned to participate. #edchat Lost track of time!
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	I may be mistaken, but I believe a NETS*S standard is collaboration & creativity--->SM anyone? #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	We need an education system for the new century. That has to include Social Media. As books were part of the old one #Edchat
Re_SearchingEd	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	What if more curriculum (texts and teacher guides) came built-in with SM components for hesitant tchrs? #edchat Instd of qstns end of chaptr
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	There's another side of the coin. Orgs like mine, non-profits want to use SM to reach out and engage the Ed community at all levels. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	@rjwassink What kind of ?s good ones I hope! #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:33 PM	I didn't know that SM is banned in schools. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	RT @ShellTerrell: @doriedance I think its part of tchr job to always check sites b4 we share them #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	#edchat absence of psychological motivatirs means Ts need help at start, like @tomwhitby and his Ss.
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	RT @mbteach: I may be mistaken, but I believe a NETS*S standard is collaboration & creativity--->SM anyone? #edchat Yep! Good Point!
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	RT @sharon_elin: Are teachers resistant 2 change because they're lazy? 2 busy? Afraid? Skeptical? What do you see as their reasons? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@jarrodmartin1 A lot of time? #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@aforgrave yes, someone often reviews books, but criteria varies alot. Barnes & Noble offerings would scare some. #edchat
celfoster	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	RT @Digin4ed: Perhaps education needs to refocus on teaching students to live in the world they are inheriting. #edchat
schickbob	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	#edchat Conference topic: What Are the Dangers (of the 'Net) & How Do We Address Them? My comment: what a miserable approach
lbott	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	Think it takes too much of a shift in methodology for some teachers, and an openness to ideas from others #edchat
meheinz	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	RT @tomwhitby: If schls put effort in other health & safety issues as in banning SM maybe obesity/drug abuse might be addressed #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@rjwassink But see how awesome is that...a perfect chance to talk about the benefits! #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@sharon_elin I think many don't know how to use it. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@lbott Need access to complete projects. Ooops, still blocked. #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@Parentella most of SM sites are blocked in my school...Twitter in on the way too =( #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	Social media should be a means to ed goals, not an end in itself. #edchat via @blairteach @aforgrave @jkdham @classroomtools
denabud	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@blairteach @aforgrave There is plenty of "water" in the old ways, so they don't GET thirsty; they get complacent. #edchat TTWWADI
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:34 PM	@ShellTerrell I plan to soon start a Tuesday Night "Tech Night" in my room where I help others on tech stuff and show #edchat weekly.
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	@cybraryman1 Yet too few are actively preparing pre-service teachers to work in a world of social media. (Kudos @tomwhitby) #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	@lbott You are perhaps correct. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	Maybe ppl don't want 2 spend the extra time it takes 2 tch internet safety-I do it 4 a month b4 we even get email accts/blog, etc... #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	@cecilianobre Why? What is the rationale? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler: How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
schickbob	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	#edchat So, what can I bring to such a conference? Would you infiltrate? Subvert? or ignore/boycott?
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:35 PM	So the interface between formal ed, pre-service ed, the public AND INFORMAL ed is a broader landscape for SM. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@mbteach But thats funny because now every district is required to teach it! If they take e-rate money, which most do... #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@denabud Since much of the "fear" is irrational, it will be hard to overcome with a demo. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@cecilianobre So really admin only successfully blocks tchrs #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	Social Media users and the impact is growing exponentially, Eventually, it will be too powerful to stop. #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	If everyone used #edchat and Twitter, would it drown out too many voices and bring us back to where we were? Too much SM could be bad...
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	WRT Blocking/Filtering --- can folks see WHY the initial reaction to block/filter is rational -- we're dealing w/kids? #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@schickbob: #edchat Conference topic: Maybe What are the benefits of social media, and how we use them? #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@philhart was it hope at the bottom of pandora's box? (just googled) #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:36 PM	@cecilianobre I find it funny they block this yet I catch most kids on Myspace & IM during class hrs bcuz they hacked it #edchat
thadhaines	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	Someone once said better for our students to learn about SM in school than by themselves in a dark bedroom #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@rjwassink I think we'd cause ripple in our communities! In essence we are collaborating on change right now & gaining support #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	The live Twitter coverage of the MESSENGER spacecraft flyby of Mercury is a great example of what we're trying to do with Web2.0. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@blairteach @tonnet I have successfully gotten one of my colleagues on Twitter & he has never stopped thanking me. #edchat
debrasanborn	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
Teddi14	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	Teacher Student Loan Cancellation http://tinyurl.com/8tc834 Has anyone got this Teacher Loan Forgiveness? #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler: How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
cytochromec	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	Our school allows twitter/ning. We block facebook/myspace. We also provide Moodle for supervised SM #edchat . Kids need a lot of guidance.
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	RT @web20classroom @KirstenWinkler: How can a country ban Soc Medi. in schools if it basically elected its president with Soc. Med.? #Edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@ErnieEaster Absolutely. And don't forget trains. They drive so fast, you will get mad if you use them instead of horses! :) #Edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@rjwassink SocMed has the incredible potential to change the flow/lines of communication/power #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@blairteach true, it should be part of training or a module on getting a teaching degree #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@aforgrave Kids can stab each other with pens and pencils too, but we don't ban those. #edchat
meheinz	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	PLEASE! RT @tonnet: Social media at schools has to demolish the filtering barrier in the first place #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	@blairteach the only thing-if it's a beta site it can change (like the stop motion one I tweeted about) #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:37 PM	RT @GiftedTeechur: RT @sharon_elin: why are teachers resistant? - all of the above. #edchat
jaimebarclay	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	RT @Digin4ed: Perhaps education needs to refocus on teaching students to live in the world they are inheriting. #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	If we analize what mst fear frm the intenet it might be more undesirable than unsafe. What make adults uncomfortable is not unsafe. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	RT @thadhaines: Someone once said better for our students to learn about SM in school than by themselves in a dark bedroom #edchat Agreed
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	RT @classroomtools Kids can stab each other with pens and pencils too, but we don't ban those. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	@web20classroom only lab teachers/media specialists teach it (if you have one), and not all of the lab tchrs do, I'm sure #edchat
BrandonFrame	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	#edsocialmediasummit I hope to see you all there. #edchat http://tinyurl.com/lmyfv5
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	@blairteach Then the question might be how to retain those colleagues how already get in touch with social media tools #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	RT @classroomtools @aforgrave Kids can stab each other with pens and pencils too, but we don't ban those. #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	@Parentella "bad for kids" or too much bandwith - same old rubbish #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:38 PM	Books were once an innovation, too. @Digin4ed: Social Media: Eventually, it will be too powerful to stop. #edchat
BrandonFrame	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	RT @thadhaines: Someone once said better for our students to learn about SM in school than by themselves in a dark bedroom #edchat Agreed
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@rjwassink Thats a great idea! A Tech Nite! #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	Is SocMed being "banned" -- or just held back while folks figure it out? @debrasanborn @kmadolf @KirstenWinkler #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	All tools can have a downside, but students are educated on their use and benefits #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	Gotta jump in and stand up for teachers - they are not resistant to change, humans are resistant to change. Not a teacher thing. #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@KirstenWinkler: country doesn't ban Social Media, local school board or supers do. #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@ShellTerrell Good point. They are the ones who don't know how to deal with proxy servers. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@esmith1126 Why is that majority/minority thing true with social media when it isn't true in so many other situations? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@mbteach I bet that is the way it is most places...but every teacher is responsible....NETS for Teachers.... #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	@ShellTerrell yeah. Even utube is blocked...we need to get an authorization to use the videos, after that they block it again #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:39 PM	just joining the chat- learning is a social activity, embracing SM is natural extension #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@ErnieEaster If we all did it then its a gr8 impact I think! #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@lbott All tools can have a downside, but students are educated on their use and benefits #edchat- we can say the same for print tools too!
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@web20classroom I wonder what admins in Philly have even heard of NETS*T #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@rjwassink I don't know...maybe the conversation would get watered down... #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@aforgrave Next week is "Banned Book Week" so I guess there are access problems in all types of media. #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@mbteach Gr8t. Problem is some ppl still think these tools are for adolescents only. They think of themselves to be to old for this #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@kmadolf exactly I had to learn fr stdts how to do this so I could show them educ videos #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@aforgrave tchrs resist change because they are exposed to new initiatives every few years, so change =bad #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	@tomwhitby but there are things that I don't have problems with~but I answer to the parents #edchat
thadhaines	9/22/2009	7:40 PM	Better to co-op students SM sites than create new ones for ed only-creates a greater personal connection 4 students #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	@Digin4ed Effect is the same, unfortunately. Over here in France Social Media it is not even known, they discovered email last week #Edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	@mbteach I wonder if many administrators any where have? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	@blairteach Every once in a while I encounter a student who "isn't yet ready" for a pen -- I require pencil only ... #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	@cecilianobre many schools/teachers still think of social media in terms of 'To Catch a Predator.' #edchat
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	@Digin4ed So how do we engage supers and schoolboards in conversation about Social Media and its implications for education? #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	Like the tech night idea; like a science fair or art festival, great projects can be displayed #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:41 PM	RT @mbteach: @blairteach @tonnet I have successfully gotten one of my colleagues on Twitter & he has never stopped thanking me. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	RT @GiftedTeechur: Most of my students don't like twitter~they prefer Facebook and now Edmodo #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	@tonnet my 55 yr old mom has a FB addiction. It's all about how you use it #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	RT @web20classroom RT @KirstenWinkler How can country ban Social Media in schools if basically elected president w- Social Media? #Edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	@ShellTerrell And that's what our classrooms should look like! Are teachers afraid to give up role of expert? #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	@aforgrave Problem is those ppl "figuring it out" aren't trying to figure it out. It's the ignore it & it'll go away syndrome. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	@dianadell how do we engage supers and sb in conversation about Social Media and its implications for education? #edchat model for them
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	G8 ?! RT @dianadell: @Digin4ed So how do we engage supers & schoolbrds in convo about Soc Media & implications for edu? #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	Most of my students don't like twitter~they prefer Facebook and now Edmodo #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:42 PM	[Teachers] are not resistant to change, humans are resistant to change. Not a teacher thing. #edchat via @doctorjeff True!
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	maybe the resistors don't realize how fun sm is. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	Students are our biggest advocates of SM. I have Indep study kids teach teachers how to integrate sm tools- it can b very powerful. #Edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	RT aforgrave: Our "mission," as with other media, is to encourage, enlighten, enskill, empower ... #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@CotterHUE teens especially need to have good safety/netiquette instruction #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	RT @doctorjeff: Gotta jump in & stand up for Ts - they rnt resistant to change, humans r resistant to change. Not a teacher thing. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@GiftedTeechur Good point! My stdts use FB & Myspace daily. I think FB safest of those 2 #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@mbteach unfortunately, yes. They donÂ´t see it as a formal- reliable way of learning.They may think learning just happens thr books #edchat
Worldclass52	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	#edchat is anyone out there doing it - integrating all the technologies Inc SM are the results success enough to generate interest??
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @sharon_elin: Pandora's box: what many teachers, admins + parents see when they think of social media. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@web20classroom I keep plugging along. I'm sure there is a tipping point when they will finally "get it." #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@GiftedTeechur The very parents who do not filter their or their neighbors or kids' friends' computers #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	Our "mission," as with other media, is to encourage, enlighten, enskill, empower ... #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:43 PM	@aforgrave Practice makes perfect. As @garyvee says "you don't want to wait until the wave breaks your face, you want to ride it." #Edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@tomwhitby believe me~you're preaching 2 the choir~but since I'm "raising them" 7 hr/day~I'm responsible for filtering/character ed #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@kmadolf Needless to say I often walk on glass in school & am hush hush sometimes w/ ways we use tech #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@dianadell 1) show value proposition 2) show need (scores, proactive parent & bus supt) 3) show downside risk of not doing #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@kmadolf Its good they teach me but 1 tchr told me I'm encouraging them to hack school system #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	RT @mbteach: @CotterHUE teens especially need to have good safety/netiquette instruction #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	is your district's goal to educate or to pass stnd tests? that often impacts stand on SM #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@blairteach Soon it will get to a point where they have no choice...then they are going to feel behind.... #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:44 PM	@blairteach I think "ignore and it will go away" is the initial reaction -- time/influence will lead to better response .. #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	Why do ppl insist on tching kids for what we have done in our last decade.These kids will live in future decades We need more vision #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@patpack I have 200 student accts waiting 2 B used but having firewall issues. How I've used Glogster: #edchat http://bit.ly/3mPPH2
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@tearoof Most districts would answer testing...because funding is tied to those tests.... #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@nancydevine SM is indeed fun and insightful, and educational. #edchat
JoHart	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@aforgrave just logged in so late response - imho it isn't just teachers that resist change is across all population #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	I wonder how many adults today refer to books as opposed to 'Net for information? @cecilianobre @mbteach #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	What 21st century education in the US needs is someone who can push Social Media from a bully pulpit. You need Obama. Why not? #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	They are trying to avoid the unavoidable #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@CotterHUE Point taken. Doesn't fix the problem of resistance, though. Do to time constraints, I think tchrs are more resistant #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:45 PM	@Worldclass52 I know there are lots of examples out there....but will the resistors listen? #edchat
celfoster	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@tearoof Unfortunately I think that is what will do it - systems who use SM - scores up - info gets out there - others follow #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@thadhaines But among all administrators...you are rare....#edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	RT @web20classroom: @blairteach Soon they are going to feel behind... - & then they become Ts kids hate and learn 0 from #edchat
rdelorenzo	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@aforgrave Keep in mind that this divide in perception can go both ways. #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	what got each of us here? would what got us here work with others? #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@ShellTerrell -@kmadolf Needless to say I often walk on glass in school & am hush hush sometimes w/ ways we use tech #edchat that is sad!
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@tearoof Testing is what I see. Every lesson is couched in terms of how it prepares students for the TEST. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	Po -- social media as a learning tool may not be for all learners, or all educators ... #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @mbteach: @CotterHUE teens especially need to have good safety/netiquette instruction #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	@web20classroom @mbteach I just finished my admin degree and had never heard of them until I found ISTE on my own #edchat
curtis_dutiel	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	RT @tonnet: Social media should be a means to ed goals, not an end in itself. #edchat via @blairteach @aforgrave @jkdham @classroomtools
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:46 PM	RT @Parentella: @nancydevine SM is indeed fun and insightful, and educational. #edchat
billkimball	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	RT @web20classroom @thadhaines ...better for students to learn about SocMedia in school than by themselves in a dark bedroom #edchat Agreed!
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@aforgrave True of any tool. You do, however, have more options for differentiation when using social media. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	How many careers can we think of that all need stdts to know how to collaborate effectively in teams? ALL #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@rjwassink See there is just something wrong with that.... #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	Don't forget Brainpop is free until the end of September for Digital Citizenship http://bit.ly/GFQQk #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@web20classroom: agreed, which doesn't bode well at all for SM- many districts just don't see it as a priority #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@thadhaines you mean the NETS? Our district luckily references them in the "Tech Connections" curriculum #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@Parentella Students and teachers are banned from SM in many schools. #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	@aforgrave lots, I bet! #edchat
cristama	9/22/2009	7:47 PM	Bummed I have to miss #edchat AGAIN...headed to Lyssie's soccer practice. Have a great conversation!
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	RT @GiftedTeechur: Don't forget Brainpop is free until the end of September for Digital Citizenship http://bit.ly/GFQQk #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@denabud #edchat I am doing that mrore and more too
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@ShellTerrell Um...most....its rare for there not to be.... #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@ShellTerrell and my Edmodo is even safer because there is an ADMIN # for registering #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@rjwassink so we're back to last week's topic: what pre-service educators need! #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@tomwhitby It is what they are comfortable with. We have raised too many memorizers that have become teachers. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	RT @cecilianobre: @mbteach Agreed! kid-friendly versions should be addressed #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@ShellTerrell Frustrating to have to 'hide' learning / teaching methods that prepare students for world. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@techgirlangie That is a problem....we still have to teach responsible use at the same time keeping kids safe..#edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@aforgrave I would say few. "Google" is now a verb! #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	RT @GiftedTeechur: Don't forget Brainpop is free until the end of September for Digital Citizenship http://bit.ly/GFQQk #edchat
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	Awesome #Edchat guys. Unfortunately 1:45AM in France and teaching starts at 9AM ;) Catch up with the Chat later!
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:48 PM	@rdelorenzo Hi Rob -- clarify "both ways" ? #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	@ShellTerrell Engineers, Research scientists, architects, city planners, all collaborate in teams #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	I'm getting real-time search results at TweetGrid http://tweetgrid.com/ #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	#edchat perhaps a kid friendly site like webkinz, but you don't have to buy more "stuffies" first
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	RT @tonnet: [Teachers] are not resistant to change, humans are resistant to change. Not a teacher thing. #edchat via @doctorjeff True!
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	RT @CotterHUE: #edchat Many Ts aware of benefits but dont know where/how to begin. They need help, guidance, ideas to start.
JoHart	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	'twas ever thus - gain acceptance for the new one step at a time there will always be those who don't adopt until concept not new #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	@blairteach@tearoof Testing is what I see. Every lesson is couched in terms of how it prepares students for the TEST #edchat -not everywhere
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	@philhart Was that Hope? or was it a tootsie roll? #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	#edchat My conversation school thinks it's 1990. No web presence at all, no use of SM for learning, nothing. Very sad, very frustrating.
KirstenWinkler	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	If you like, read my #Edchat blog post on today's topic http://bit.ly/dXyod Would love to see some comments ;) Good night and take care!
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	@kmadolf It is! At new institute after 2 yrs they are embracing how I integrate tech in class! Its exciting! #edchat
nancydevine	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	RT @kmadolf @ShellTerrell Frustrating to have to 'hide' learning / teaching methods that prepare students for world. #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	OH plus if you sign up for eCybermission you get Brainpop for FREE #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:49 PM	RT @Digin4ed: Perhaps education needs to refocus on teaching students to live in the world they are inheriting. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	@tomwhitby "If we teach today's students as we taught yesterday's, we rob them of tomorrow." John Dewey #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	I am joining edchat late - what is the topic? an update? #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	@rjwassink it's not new?? I just learned about all this stuff this summer!!! LOL!! #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	RT @CotterHUE: #edchat Many Ts aware of benefits but dont know where/how to begin. They need help, guidance, ideas to start.
anotherschwab	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	Great, got my #edchat and #educhat mixed up again
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler Practice makes perfect. "You don't want to wait until the wave breaks your face, you want to ride it." - @garyvee #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	7:50 PM	@mbteach A person 84 yrs old, helps w/ a site's edition from Australia. But this do not solve the retention of ppl into SM #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	I've been helping two of our Spanish teachers~working on Nat. Boards with Twitter and other Web 2.0 to help with that process #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@CotterHUE how do you cope with that? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@zbpipe What role does Social Media play in Education? #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	RT @philhart: @sharon_elin Do people forget what was at the bottom of Pandora's box? #edchat I hope that they do ;)
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	#edchat visionaries from 1999 still look at SM and "web 2.0" as "new" 21st century skills. A vision of tomorrow changes when tomorrow comes.
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	RT @web20classroom @GiftedTeechur: ... Brainpop is free until the end of September for Digital Citizenship http://bit.ly/GFQQk #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	we r data-driven- show a relationship between web2.0 immersion and improved test scores, and SM will be golden #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@zbpipe Importance of Soc Med w/ stdts right now! #edchat
philhart	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@nancydevine @tomwhitby It was indeed Hope at the bottom of Pandora's box! #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@rjwassink are you getting EC (overtime) for that ? #edchat :)
mtrump	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	RT: blairteach: @tomwhitby "If we teach today's students as we taught yesterday's, we rob them of tomorrow." John Dewey #edchat
Worldclass52	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@web20classroom we need to share thosestorirs show the podcasts at faculty meetings and keep the discussions going. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@lbott They also must continuously collaborate w/ others in different cities, sts, & countries yet stdts not taught this #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	RT @blairteach @tomwhitby "If we teach today's students as we taught yesterday's, we rob them of tomorrow." John Dewey #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:51 PM	@CotterHUE Just imagine how your Conversation School will be down the road once things change ... #edchat
Worldclass52	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	What and how is Microsofts school of the future dealing with this issue? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	@Worldclass52 I agree...we have to start somewhere... #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	'logging' into
JoHart	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	imho Admin/IT blocking easily circumvented by students - all comes back to responsible dig citizenship - taught young #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	RT @blairteach: RT @ShellTerrell: @doriedance I think its part of tchr job to always check sites b4 we share them #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	@lbott I've learn difficulty of this & how these skills needed by being on global teams in last 2 yrs #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler: How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
mtrump	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	RT: @blairteach: @tomwhitby "If we teach today's students as we taught yesterday's, we rob them of tomorrow." John Dewey #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	RT @philhart: @nancydevine @tomwhitby It was indeed Hope at the bottom of Pandora's box! #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	7:52 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @Parentella: @nancydevine SM is indeed fun and insightful, and educational. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	@JoHart Yep...it all comes back to teaching responsible use and digital citizenship #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	@schickbob start a hastag on Twitter for the conference as a backchannel conversation to 'infiltrate.' #edchat
celfoster	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	RT @tearoof: we r data-driven- show a relationship between web2.0 immersion and improved test scores, and SM will be golden #edchat
JoHart	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	sorry keep forgetting #edchat - hard doing this on twhirl (at work no tweetdeck)
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	@rjwassink But at this point Web 2.0 is not new....its old and changing to Web 3.0 before our eyes... #edchat
philhart	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	Does blocking by schools bring the admins into disrepute in the minds of the learners? #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:53 PM	@lbott Adults dont know how to interculturally communicate or effective communication on ICTs, resolving probs #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@rjwassink #edchat yes, too much SM could be bad, but we do need to teach them critical literacy...did my determining importance lesson 2day
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	The perception mst people have of Twitter is that it's a joke.Perception becomes reality and we as teachers cannot sell social Media #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	RT @ShellTerrell: @lbott Adults dont know how to interculturally communicate or effective communication on ICTs, resolving probs #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@denabud True, not everywhere, but I mostly w/schls that didn't make AYP. I preach "quality instruction" vs. test prep, but . . . #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@philhart High school stdts loved challenge of accessing blocked sites as way of rebellion! #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@JoHart i use tweetchat.com for #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	Time, Advocacy: Recall that blackboard on the wall for teachers were once a disputed innovation when students had slates ... #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@dianadell Agreed, test score improvement would have to be part of value proposition. #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	7:54 PM	@KristenWinkle The country is not banning SM, just a select group of principals, school boards and probably teachers. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@classroomtools yet, many tchrs don't use manipulatives b/c they don't know how to manage them in the classroom: metaphor here? #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@aforgrave Yes but back then getting on top of "ed tech" wasn't life or death in the marketplace. If we cannot compete we're dead. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	RT @thadhaines: Someone once said better for our students to learn about SM in school than by themselves in a dark bedroom #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@rjwassink #edchat lwhat do you mean , too much social media?
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	Some tchrs in school see me as a geek or ner 4 using "too much" of SM sites.I see them as "strangers" in a way for not being part. #edchat
edtechsteve	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	We teach sex ed, character ed, alcohol/drugs, but we're still afraid to touch social networking in schools. Mind boggling #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	#edchat @cecilianobre I cope by running my site & looking to day I can be selfemployed in edu. Now help Ts Ss as best as can w/out tech.
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@philhart probably no more disrepute than they otherwise would have. learners don't fully appreciate what they're missing. #edchat
mentormadness	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@JoHart totally agree - but how do we change the opinions of those with policy making powers? #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	AT&T "You Will" ads from 1993 -- how many of these are now commonplace? http://bit.ly/GqCZ8 #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@ShellTerrell Thanks for great insight and perspective; your experience is invaluable to those of us isolated in libraries #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	Social Media allows for authentic collaboration, we've been able to collaborate with many schools.. #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:55 PM	@tawilkins that's what I'm hoping-we've had a couple of "Web 2.0" parties at my house #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	In P/T conf I would tell parents that everything was on my website~they asked other T's if they had a website~those T's upset w/me #edchat
thadhaines	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	RT @mbteach: RT @CotterHUE: #edchat Many Ts aware of benefits but dont know where/how to begin. They need help, guidance, ideas to start.
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@aforgrave - looking forward to using mindmeister.com to connect our students ideas.. #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@aforgrave - looking forward to using mindmeister.com to connect our students ideas.. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@edtechsteve Took a long time to even touch those issues yet every schl cries of probs w/ cyber bullying #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@tomwhitby WRT Twitter adoption -- I wonder about historic penetration of print media in society, too. #edchat
mentormadness	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	I think to some degree the blanket blocking of sites degrades our opinions of ourselves as professionals. #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@CotterHUE I bet you feel the odd one out. This is sad #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	I agree with this completely - @tomwhitby: The perception mst people have of Twitter is that its a joke. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:56 PM	@lbott Thanks for the conversation & gr8 discussion! Its gr8 to discuss these issues & collaborate on solutions #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	@GiftedTeechur Had the same experience! Tchrs then tell me that its not part of the job description & we dont get paid to do that #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	I kept trying to tell T's that it takes a little more work~but it covers ur butt~kid loses Geog ?'s~ download from website etc.. #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	#edchat A good number of colleagues see Twitter for chat only. They often are surprised by a good idea... Which I get from Twitter.
kmadolf	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	@edtechsteve And we teach how to be safe when driving, but not surfing. #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	Who else is using individualized blogs with their students? Could this be a way for students to publish, comment and share? #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	Thanks for conversation. Gotta go tonight; will catch up from archive. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	@tomwhitby what makes adults uncomfortable is what they can't control. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	@cecilianobre there can certainly be a "divide" between folks as some engage in new tech/media ... #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	@tonnet but many teachers are as resistant to professional change as doctors were in age of Lister and Pasteur. #edchat
anotherschwab	9/22/2009	7:57 PM	filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use id #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	@tonnet medicine, architecture, engineering have leapt ahead. Teaching too often has not. A profession issue? #edchat
anotherschwab	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	@zbpipe I know @iteachag is using individual blogs in his AgComm class #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	RT @mbteach: @tomwhitby what makes adults uncomfortable is what they cant control. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	WRT Twitter perception @LeesaWatego @tomwhitby Critical mass required to "get it," individual reason required to benefit .. #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	@zbpipe I mean too many ppl collaborating at same time w/out limits could get messy. Its why we elect representatives to vote for us #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	Change is a very hard thing for most people. It seems that the education sector changes much slower than the rest of world. Why? #edchat
mentormadness	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	It's 1 thing 2 block students access (altho I don't agree w/ this either), but blocking teachers access cre8s a culture of distrust #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	I know alot of teachers who struggle using EMAIL, let alone wikis, twitter, fb etc. Never mind altering tch'g practice to collaborat #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	RT @mbteach: @tomwhitby what makes adults uncomfortable is what they can't control. #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	@ShellTerrell gr8 point- maybe many adults are being pushed far beyond their comfort zones when expected to be global citizens #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	7:58 PM	@doctorjeff not dead, just impoverished #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@Digin4ed Agreed. My metaphor really meant we had better get ready for third world status in coming decades. #edchat
blairteach	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@tomwhitby I feel like Twitter used exclusively for social updates IS kind of stupid; as a professional tool, it's AMAZING! #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@ShellTerrell exactly~say I'm just creating more work for them~bcuz prin. had me do an inserv on how to set up #edchat
dianadell	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@rjwassink learning and progress are usually messy propositions :-) #edchat
rangotti	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	We wouldn't stop giving tests just because kids cheat, why do we deny access to tech because some use it inappropriately #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@tomwhitby makes adults uncomfortable is what they can't control #edchat the role of the teacher needs to become more of a facilitator
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@coolcatteacher true. Some sites change their advertisers & sometimes get blocked or become inappropriate #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@aforgrave agree & a critical mass of users who AREN'T following the celebs but using for real connection & learning #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	RT @aforgrave: Our "mission," as with other media, is to encourage, enlighten, enskill, empower ... #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@LeesaWatego Teachers feel stressed by pressure to use new tools, even wikis or webpages #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@tomwhitby wow. That is indeed scary. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@tearoof They are & many dont know how to get over themselves for sake of grp solution! Evry1 use to work as individual #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	If you participated in #edchat tonight...thanks! Remember, I do a summary reflection to collect your thoughts...http://is.gd/3zTQb
wmacphail	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@zbpipe Why does it have to be individual blogs, why not make it collaborative? #edchat
hmundahl	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@tomwhitby I'm not sure if we need to sell social media. Rather we can model being voracious learners using this tool. #edchat
edtechsteve	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@ShellTerrell yes- not to mention that all the others flow directly through social networks now. Miss the medium = miss the message #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	7:59 PM	@aforgrave good question. Are we 'easing' our way into SM? If we take this approach, will it B 2 late when we finally get on board? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	RT @blairteach: I feel like Twitter used exclusively for social updates IS kind of stupid; as a professional tool, it's AMAZING! #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	RT @dpeter: Change in education is slow, and difficult, but necessary. WE need to be the change, and not merely the changed. #edchat
JoHart	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	@aforgrave interstng cf print - then a print illiterate soc cf with largely dig illit soc now - main diff is in speed of info dissem #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	@web20classroom ut oh, collecting my thoughts could be a scary thing.#edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	I wonder, is it the technology, or the learning practice, that get in the way? @LeesaWatego #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	@tonnet can we use these 'older' adults to open minds to SM? #edchat
celfoster	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	RT @LeesaWatego: : teachers who struggle using EMAIL, let alone wikis, twitter, fb .Never mind altering tch'g practice to collaborat #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	#edchat @aforgrave indeed! But some of them look down on you because youÂ´re tech-oriented
Worldclass52	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat (via @web20classroom)
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	#edchat @cecilianobre Most frustrating is the fact Im trainer and curric developer... And I have to leave out many ideas just for approval.
dpeter	9/22/2009	8:00 PM	Change in education is slow, and difficult, but necessary. WE need to be the change, and not merely the changed. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	@GiftedTeechur ?ed in edu, but in business every person knows 4 success u have to have info & put in the work #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation and fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
kmadolf	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	RT @rangotti: We don't stop giving tests just because kids cheat, why do we deny access to tech because some use it inappropriately #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	@Parentella That is what make this a battle for learners. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	@mbteach Hmmm. "Too late," probably not. Early adopters may face discomfort. Late arrivals, same thing. #edchat
hmundahl	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	RT @KirstenWinkler: How can a country ban Social Media in schools if it basically elected its president with Social Media? #Edchat
monk51295	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	jkdham RT @aforgrave: Our "mission," as with other media, is to encourage, enlighten, enskill, empower ... #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	@lbott perhaps its a context thing - a person is more likely to be stressed if they HAVE to learn it, instead of WANT to learn it. #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	@denabud But how to we change the role of teacher to facilitator, and get teachers to accept? #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:01 PM	We are change agents, but still are required to do the traditional methods too...as is required. We are often more in the spotlight. #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	@kmadolf Great point about misuse and cheating; just because sometimes abused, don't throw out tool #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	@tearoof thank you great quote "Be the change you wish to see in the world"-Gandhi #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	teachers laughed at me when I told them of my twitter addiction, but now most understand it is a great learning tool #Edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	VERY COOL - you can read about a Tech Incentive program @tawilkins wrote about! #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	Teacher stressed about learning new stuff? Imagine how some students feel! #edchat
dianadell	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	Thanks for the conversation and questions. #edchat The first step in solving a problem is to ask the right questions.
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	RT @web20classroom: Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
curtis_dutiel	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	Amen! RT @web20classroom: RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	WRT Individual verses collaborative -- how about both? Voice AND compromise @wmacphail: @zbpipe #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	@wmacphail by individualized blogs, I meant students having their own place to post and maintain, like a portfolio. #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	Be the change you wish to see in the world- Gandhi #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	8:02 PM	@CotterHUE isnt that an irony? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	@mbteach if a librarian in 1970 had ripped "objectionable" pages out of the New York Times would that have been "filtering"? #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	@mbteach Absolutely! There may be hundreds of them, we just need to find them and promote their point of view and experiences #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	RT @hmundahl: @tomwhitby I'm not sure if we need to sell social media. Rather we can model being voracious learners using this tool. #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	RT @web20classroom: Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation + fill out 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	@LeesaWatego teacher stressed about learning the "old" stuff. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	@rjwassink What if (through safe, uncompromisable tech) everyone could vote on key issues w/o reps? #edchat
monk51295	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	RT @web20classroom RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	RT @cecilianobre: @CotterHUE isnt that an irony? #edchat -- Actually painful
thadhaines	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	Behavior not the tech! RT @web20classroom:RT @anotherschwab: filtering the Internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:03 PM	RT @dianadell: Thanks for the conversation and questions. #edchat The first step in solving a problem is to ask the right questions.
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	If more teachers were also students , we'd probably not need to have this discussion. #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	RT @tomwhitby I'm not sure if we need to sell social media. Rather we can model being voracious learners using this tool. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	@CotterHUE Why/From Whom do you need approval. (Just advocating for you ...) #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	RT @dpeter: @dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	Wonder if Google Wave will be popular and good enough to change SM in education as much as everyone hopes it can? #edchat
dpeter	9/22/2009	8:04 PM	@dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	That was supposed to say I 'used' it today. The BrainPop video is great! #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @dpeter: Change in education slow, difficult, necessary. WE need 2B the change, and not merely the changed. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	@rjwassink Ah....that will be interesting.... #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	@cecilianobre Maybe the results need to speak for themselves ... #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	@mbteach are words censored via school filters which appear in school library books? #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	RT @dpeter @dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	use it 2day! RT @GiftedTeechur: Don't forget Brainpop is free until the end of September for Digital Citizenship http://bit.ly/GFQQk #edchat
Digin4ed	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	must go, hwk to grade, hwk to do (always a student), great chat, thanks to all #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	SM allows teachers in isolated areas opportunity to work with colleagues they would never be able meet face to face. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	RT @zbpipe: I am joining edchat late - what's topic? #edchat Hey Zoe, we are talking about social media in c/r. Do you use SM in your c/r
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	#Edchat Question: Which would affect quicker change & influence more? Getting patents on board, getting admin to support SM/tech in school?
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	8:05 PM	@hmundahl We need to model to students the proper and responsible use of the tool #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	@irasocol certain kinds of censoring have been happening since the advent of the written word, esp in schools #edchat
lbott	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	Appreciate the great conversation tonite; thanks for sharing #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	RT @irasocol @mbteach if a librarian in 1970 had ripped "objectionable" pages out of the NYT would that have been "filtering"? #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	@CotterHUE IÂ´d say patents on board #edchat - some adminis are not educators
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	@CotterHUE I say getting parents on board because they know how to apply pressure #Edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	@CotterHUE Twitter is the ultimate real time idea and learning exchange system. It should be adapted for educational use. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:06 PM	RT @JoHart: imho Admin/IT blocking easily circumvented by students - all comes back to responsible dig citizenship - taught young #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	Yes, but down here in the south they still take books off shelves #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	Just as the Internet was transformative Social Media is transforming the way we work. Students need 2 be exposed to working with it. #edchat
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	@CotterHUE IÂ´d say parents on board #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	rjwassink RT @classroomtools: If more teachers were also students , we'd probably not need to have this discussion. #edchat EXACTLY
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	RT @web20classroom: If u participatd in #edchat 2night-thanks! Remember, I do summary reflection 2 collect yr thoughts...http://is.gd/3zTQb
denabud	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	@lbott change role of teacher modeling. I m lucky 2 teach tech integration grad courses 4 our dist teachers.We model what we preach. #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	RT @classroomtools: If more teachers were also students , we'd probably not need to have this discussion. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	Perception, Attitude, Behaviour @lbott: @denabud But how to we change role to facilitator, get teachers to accept? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	@classroomtools schools have rarely encouraged any kind of conversation. Of course SM seems foreign #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	@aforgrave i agree its the context of learning that gets in the way - technology can be mastered if you have the right approach #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	8:07 PM	RT @classroomtools: If more teachers were also students , we'd probably not need to have this discussion. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	RT @edtechsteve: We teach sex ed, character ed, alcohol/drugs, but still afraid to touch social networking in schools. Mind boggling #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	@rjwassink what kind of response was it met w/? did it spark interest? #edchat
CotterHUE	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	#edchat @aforgrave I work in Japan for a very traditional Japanese company. All ideas are discussed before. (that's the short version.)
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	@irasocol So, where in our educational history did the authoritarian model become dominant? #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	RT @zbpipe: SM allows 4 authentic collaboration, we've collaborated with many schools.. #edchat g8 way to teach peace/understanding
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:08 PM	RT @zbpipe @tearoof thank you, great quote "Be the change you wish to see in the world"-Gandhi #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	RT @irasocol: @classroomtools schools have rarely encouraged any kind of conversation. Of course SM seems foreign #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	RT @zbpipe: Who else using individualized blogs with their students? Could this be a way for students to publish, comment and share? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	@aforgrave @tomwhitby print media was "sold" by Protestant Religion. Was used for indoctrination. Thus spread by govts #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	RT @classroomtools: @irasocol So, where in our educational history did the authoritarian model become dominant? #edchat
tim_yocum	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	For true global learning to happen, Social Media must be modeled and utilized properly as a communication tool to share knowledge. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	Beyond modelling, we need students to learn to "think" in new ways using the tools @tomwhitby @hmundahl #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:09 PM	@ShellTerrell @kmadolf my principal said "I'm scared of you, Ms. Hertz!" when I showed her how Google Docs works #edchat (a compliment)
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	@meheinz @irasocol try not being able to search Google video or Google images! Putting R kids at such a disadvantage! #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	RT @edtechsteve: We teach sex ed, character ed, alcohol/drugs, but still afraid to touch social networking in schools. Mind boggling #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	RT @tonnet: RT @dpeter @dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	Wasn't it when school was invented? @irasocolwhere in our educational history did the authoritarian model become dominant? #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @anotherschwab: filtering the internet is not the answer, teaching responsible use is #edchat
curtis_dutiel	9/22/2009	8:10 PM	Wish I could fully participate in #edchat but it always happens while I'm heading home from work
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	RT @aforgrave: RT @philhart: @nancydevine @tomwhitby It was indeed Hope at the bottom of Pandora's box! #edchat
bestofchat	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	RT @anotherschwab Great, got my #edchat and #educhat mixed up again http://bit.ly/bWQgs
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	@web20classroom #edchat great discussion tonight
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	How amazing it is that the conversation always leans toward filtering & firewalls.....#edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	If more EDUCATORS were also LEARNERS, we'd probably not need to have this discussion. (mod. via RT @kmadolf @classroomtools) #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	@jkdham how are you using indv blgs? what service r u using? #edchat
tim_yocum	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	That is, modeled for students and slow adopting or non adopting teachers to help them understand the power of the tools. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	irasocol @classroomtools schools have rarely encouraged any kind of conversation. Of course SM seems foreign #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	SM allows 4 Community and Collaboration..the new currency of biz and learning. Static textbook/wrksheet do not build community. #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:11 PM	Is the fear of letting teachers use SM due to distrust? #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@mbteach seems like a wall that MUST come down. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@mbteach WRT your principal -- Perception, Attitude, Behaviour ... #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	RT @eduinnovation: SM allows 4 Community and Collaboration..Static textbook/wrksheet do not build community. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@mbteach Well you are amazing! She'll more afraid when she sees how well your stdts can use Google Docs! #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@LeesaWatego UGH. Teaching email is so depressing #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	RT @MrArakaki: @jkdham how are you using indv blgs? what service r u using? #edchat it was @zbpipe who has the blogs
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@CotterHUE What level of engagement in discussion is there between "different levels" of the corporate employees? #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	8:12 PM	@eduinnovation I could not have said that better myself. #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	Feeling frustrated...preaching to the choir? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	@classroomtools my history research connects this to Calvinism and Lutheranism. Mass use of standard texts replacing tutorial convos #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	@eduinnovation SM allows 4 Comm and Colla..the new currency of biz and learning. Static textbook/wrksheet do not build community. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	RT @web20classroom: If you participated in #edchat tonight...thanks! GIve your thoughts here...http://is.gd/3zTQb
cecilianobre	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	Some ppl forget SM starts back in the day microsoft MSN was launched, sth that EVERYBODY has got nowadays! IHow can you deny that? #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	RT @tawilkins: #edchat incentives for tech integration http://bit.ly/17mX9R
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	#edchat It seems we are getting concensus. SM "modeled and utilized properly" is the next step via @tomwhitby @tim_yocum
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:13 PM	@jswiatek You do some innovative teaching, I look forward to connecting with your class. #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	RT @web20classroom: Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	RT @dpeter: @dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	Extremely inspiring to chat with such incredible and forward thinking educators. Thank you. Goodnight friends! #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	@theteachershub Yes I here's link to MESSENGER Mission Sept 29- powerful use of Twitter for SCIENCE EDUCATION. http://bit.ly/TXrOs #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	@irasocol Interesting, thanks. #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	@classroomtools US schools are outgrowth of Calvinist Churches and Prussian military training #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	RT @tim_yocum That is, modeled for stud. and slow adopting or non adopting teachers to help them understand the power of the tools. #edchat
zecool	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	RT @tonnet @irasocol @mbteach if a librarian in 1970 had ripped "objectionable" pages out of the NYT would that have been filtering? #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:14 PM	@jkdham Just like it is each week! Great educators engaging in great discussion! #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	RT @irasocol: @mbteach if a librarian in 1970 had ripped & objectionable pages out of the NY Times would that have been filtering? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	@classroomtools before schools were factories they were authoritarian places of forced conversion #edchat
ToughLoveforX	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	RT@web20classroom RT @eduinnovation: Static textbook/wrksheet New print tech means print doesn't have to be static. #edchat
mrarakaki	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	@zbpipe how are you using indv blgs? what service r u using? #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	SM leveraged in PLC too. Creates a network and a collaborative. = Prof. Networked Learning Collaborative http://twurl.nl/surdyr #edchat
curtis_dutiel	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @eduinnovation: SM allows 4 Community and Collaboration..Static textbook/wrksheet do not build community. #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	8:15 PM	@web20classroom I think when it becomes a problem, it will be taught. Isn't preveention better than cure? #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	Forgot to put #edchat @rangotti great post on SM & cheating: http://www.ed421.com/?p=976
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	@irasocol Even more interesting. Thanks again. I wonder if I "learned" this in my Ed History credential course 40 years ago? #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	@tonnet I'm totally having my mom come in and do a SM seminar :) #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	@Parentella Exactly...we need to be having the conversations now with our kids.... #edchat
zbpipe	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	As we're having this "chat", a student sent me her "new" blog....even more inspiring http://213angela.edublogs.org/ #edchat
PeaceNicole	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	RT @web20classroom @blairteach I feel like Twitter used exclusively 4 social updates IS kind/stupid; as profssnl tool, it's AMAZING! #edchat
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	8:16 PM	@theteachershub The response 2 MESSENGER Twitter initiative by schools and districts has been significant. We're doing in a BIG way. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:17 PM	Can social media increase reading skills/motivate children to write/learn to read & write? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:17 PM	@mbteach but my guess is that web is more filtered in schools than print media is. Wondering why? #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	8:17 PM	#edchat is one of the most anticipated hours of my week anymore. Thanks to all who partcipated tonight - I'm forever learning from you.
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:17 PM	@rdelorenzo How much dialogue (true, ongoing dialogue) is there between teachers and Admin? Need a shared vision. #edchat
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:18 PM	@web20classroom @Parentella @tomwhitby I hope the people at #140Conf are checking out #edchat. Reason they should have education on list.
doctorjeff	9/22/2009	8:18 PM	@web20classroom Please take a look at this... http://bit.ly/TXrOs
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:18 PM	@irasocol Perhaps it is because electronic media, esp internet, is easier to cutoff. #edchat
aforgrave	9/22/2009	8:18 PM	RT @zbpipe: As we're having this "chat", a student sent me her "new" blog....even more inspiring http://213angela.edublogs.org/ #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:18 PM	@irasocol Conversion to what? #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:19 PM	@aforgrave So I guess we should be somewhere in the middle: get our feet wet a little, then dive in #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:19 PM	@zbpipe Inspiring! Blogging promotes collaboration, writing skills, & literacy & stdts can use to build a dig ftpt & eportfolio #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:19 PM	@mbteach Yes! writing for a real audience= motivation #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:19 PM	@irasocol it takes more to publish a book. ANYONE can publish a website. It's exponential in what you can find. Just a theory #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:20 PM	Good question RT @GiftedTeechur: @mbteach But how do the shortcuts and abbreviations help with reading and writing #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:20 PM	@mbteach let me clarify.. reading and writing -CORRECTLY #edchat
GimmeeABreak	9/22/2009	8:20 PM	@justwaiting I am by no means an authority, but #edchat APPEARS to be teachers discussing problems/solutions w/one another..very interesting
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:20 PM	@mbteach But how do the shortcuts and abbreviations help with reading and writing #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	@mbteach this is the frustration- we have at our fingertips the vehicle to engage our students, but we aren't permitted to use it! #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	@GiftedTeechur If you believe that the purpose of reading and writing is communication, then shortcuts don't hurt if they understand #edchat
ketheredge	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	missed #edchat to attend children's open house, but conversation looks gr8t
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	SM allows students to move away from only searching Google for answers/info and moving toward searching others for answers/info #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	@mbteach these days anyone can publish a book too. Seems a bias based in old info #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
Parentella	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	@eduinnovation it is approved! We are on for 20 minutes. #edchat
denabud	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	@mbteach my guess- that web is filtered more than print media #edchat web can be accessed by anyone-print usually only one person at a time
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	RT @mbteach: Can social media increase reading skills/motivate children to write/learn to read & write? #edchat 4 some kids yes
NancyW	9/22/2009	8:21 PM	we r data-driven- show a relationship between web2.0 immersion and improved test scores, and SM will be golden #edchat (via @tearoof)
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:22 PM	@irasocol yes, the mindset is a little behind the times...#edchat
ToughLoveforX	9/22/2009	8:22 PM	RT @irasocol @mbteach web more filtered in schools than print \| Because print is no exposure to risk of a new thing to manage? #edchat
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	@classroomtools yes, plus "bookburner" sounds worse than "webfilterer" #edchat
BeckyFisher73	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	@GiftedTeechur Twitter is "too temporary" to kids...and "not as personal feeling" #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	Just for the record a few of my preservice kids participated in #edchat. I was proud of them and glad to have all of you in my PLN Thanks
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	@GiftedTeechur Read David Crystal's book on Internet lang. A British lexicographer, he sees it as the way Eng has always evolved. #edchat
jswiatek	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	@ketheredge When the converstaion slows a bit, I will archive tonight's #edchat. I'll announce the address to the archive here.
irasocol	9/22/2009	8:23 PM	@classroomtools conversion to white Protestant compliance. Public schools were created in US to fight Catholicism #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@rjwassink tru dat :-) #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@irasocol Still more costly to do and distribute than a web site or blog though. #edchat
tomwhitby	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@eduinnovation We are sending a transcript of #edchat and we have been approved to represent Education at the conference. #140Conf #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@ToughLoveforX @irasocol @denabud also, harder to 'preview' the web before exposing students to its content #edchat
ToughLoveforX	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@irasocol @mbteach anyone can publish a book too. #edchat But only a few can publish a book worth publishing.
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@eduinnovation They are watching and we will be there to talk about it! #140Conf #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	RT @doctorjeff: Please take a look at this... http://bit.ly/TXrOs-Jeff #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:24 PM	@irasocol Even more interesting. Where were you when I was getting my credential? :) #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	RT @tomwhitby @eduinnovation We are sending a transcript of #edchat & we have been approved to represent Education at the conf. #140Conf
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	@classroomtools defintely, reading Chaucer is different than Shakespeare is different from Hardy... #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	@BeckyFisher73 that's what they say-they don't get who they're twittering to??? #edchat
Parentella	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	@tomwhitby nice to meet all the new people on #edchat.
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	@GiftedTeechur we have to teach students how to 'code switch' just like they do when they speak. #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	RT @tomwhitby: Just for record a few of my preservice kids participated in #edchat. I was proud of them. Glad to have all u in my PLN Thnx
dianadell	9/22/2009	8:25 PM	RT @dpeter @dianadell Even if you do not know THE questions, engaging in a dialogue can lead to the questions. #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@Parentella We have some great people who participate and drop by each week! #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	The good thing about the future is that it only comes one day at a time - A. Lincoln via @pammoran #edchat
BeckyFisher73	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@tonnet The filtering barrier really on "has to" filter pornography. The rest is a local decision. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@ToughLoveforX I think that's @irasocol's point. Trashy print is everywhere! #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	RT @tomwhitby: Just for record a few of my preservice kids participated in #edchat. I was proud of them. Glad to have all u in my PLN Thnx
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	Everyone plz watchout for @jswiatek archive of #edchat! Thank him for his continual efforts in archiving these thoughtprovoking convos!
NancyW	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	#edchat for districts that block SM, show parents the power of learning through SM- their voice will be heard- make it a positive one.
tim_yocum	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@mbteach Teaching the students to write for their audience is key. They write to their classmates one way, to the public, another #edchat
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@mbteach exactly.. that's why I clarified and said "correctly" #edchat
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:26 PM	@irasocol Indeed it does, but for how long? #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:27 PM	@GiftedTeechur I fear the day that 'correctly' means txt speak :) #edchat Let's hope it never happens!
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:27 PM	Help me out #edchat participants....reflect on tonights conversation fill out my 2 question survey....http://is.gd/3zTQb
eduinnovation	9/22/2009	8:27 PM	Hey, edchatters, don't forget to add to your PLN by following any new people you come across during #edchat. A Gold mine of brilliant minds
classroomtools	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@mbteach My father-in-law treasured his Webster's 2nd Unabridged to his dying day. He completely rejected the 3rd edition. #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@eduinnovation I will add to my PLN any new people I come across during #edchat Thanks!
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@BeckyFisher73 More than that....districts are required by federal law to teach it... #edchat
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	RT @eduinnovation: Hey, edchatters, don't forget to add to ur PLN by following new ppl you met during #edchat. Gold mine of brilliant minds
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	RT @jswiatek: Did you miss some or all of tonight's #edchat ? No worries...the archive will be coming soon and posted here...
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@tim_yocum even I forget sometimes when typing emails that I'm not tweeting and I have to delete abbreviations & type out the word #edchat
jswiatek	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	Did you miss some or all of tonight's #edchat ? No worries...the archive will be coming soon and posted here...
GiftedTeechur	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@classroomtools oh I know.. GAY has had 3 meanings in my lifetime! #edchat
ToughLoveforX	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	RT @mbteach @irasocol @denabud "exposing students to its content"\| exposing students or teachers or admins to it's content? #edchat
BeckyFisher73	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@tomwhitby We're supposed to be teaching "on-line safety" in our schools - it's in Board policy #edchat
rdelorenzo	9/22/2009	8:28 PM	@aforgrave A direct answer is impossible as the amount of dialogue depends on the teacher(s), the admin & the school culture. #edchat
justwaiting	9/22/2009	8:29 PM	@tim_yocum I'm struggling w/that very idea this yr. Audience choice affects voice in writing. Trying hard to get that across. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:29 PM	@aforgrave @kmadolf @classroomtools we are all kind of preaching 2 the choir since we are all learners here at #edchat!
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:30 PM	@aforgrave @kmadolf @classroomtools @mbteach We have preservice tchrs in mix learning how convo on soc media works! #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:30 PM	@ToughLoveforX was thinking of how tchrs need to read the book b4 they teach it--the expansiveness of the web makes that imposs #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:30 PM	RT @mbteach: @tim_yocum I forget sometimes when typing emails that I'm not tweeting & I have 2 delete abbr. & type out the word #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:30 PM	@rjwassink OMG . You've got on this one. Please translate :D #edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:31 PM	@mbteach perhaps that accounts for some of the fear factor #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:31 PM	@rjwassink OMFG ROTFL LOL LOL wait, my mom's coming....#edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:31 PM	RT @tim_yocum: @mbteach Teaching sts 2 write 4 their audience is key. They write 2 their classmates one way, to the public, another #edchat
BeckyFisher73	9/22/2009	8:31 PM	@web20classroom Yes, but that doesn't mean it happens. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:32 PM	@ShellTerrell that skill-convo in SM-shld be mastered by 7-8th grade nowadays! #edchat
web20classroom	9/22/2009	8:32 PM	@BeckyFisher73 Oh I agree...completely agree.... #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:32 PM	RT @barbsaka "Education meets Creativity" Free teacher webinar w/Steve Wozniak. Sept 24 10 am PDT 5 pm GMT. http://bit.ly/2Bfk28 #edchat
ToughLoveforX	9/22/2009	8:32 PM	@classroomtools @irasocol Still more costly to do and distribute than a web site or blog \| Also less edited and focused. Do both! #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:32 PM	RT @eduinnovation: don't forget 2 add 2 your PLN by following any new people you come across during #edchat. Goldmine of brilliant minds
kindertechy	9/22/2009	8:33 PM	@jkdham I feel that too-trying to limit my text to 140 when it's not necessary :-) #edchat
kmadolf	9/22/2009	8:33 PM	@mbteach I'd take that as a compliment! :-) #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:33 PM	@tearoof good point! #edchat fearing change again.....
ShellTerrell	9/22/2009	8:34 PM	@mbteach Those in my Master's class hadn't mastered it yet w/ basics like doing your part of work & compromise All this on ICT too #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:34 PM	@jkdham so we speak 'Twinglish?' #edchat :)
kmadolf	9/22/2009	8:34 PM	@denabud They don't build dendrites, either. #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:34 PM	RT @eduinnovation: don't forget 2 add 2 your PLN by following any new people you come across during #edchat. Goldmine of brilliant minds
denabud	9/22/2009	8:35 PM	mbteach @rjwassink OMFG ROTFL LOL LOL wait, my mom's coming....#edchat MOS (mom over shoulder)
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:35 PM	RT @kindertechy: @jkdham I feel that too-trying to limit my text to 140 when it's not necessary :-) #edchat me too
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:35 PM	#edchat
tearoof	9/22/2009	8:35 PM	Good night edchatters...lesson plans await. Thanks for gr8 convo, food for thought. #edchat
jkdham	9/22/2009	8:35 PM	RT @mbteach: @jkdham so we speak 'Twinglish?' #edchat :) I like that! Yet another addition to the lexicon.
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:36 PM	@denabud couldn't remember that one, thanks! #edchat
LeesaWatego	9/22/2009	8:36 PM	RT @tonnet @barbsaka "Education meets Creativity" Free ED webinar w/Steve Wozniak. Sept 24 10 am PDT 5 pm GMT. http://bit.ly/2Bfk28 #edchat
TNschatz	9/22/2009	8:36 PM	RT @web20classroom: RT @mbteach: may be mistaken, but I believe NETS*S stnrd is collab & creativity--->SM anyone? #edchat Yep! Good Point!
tim_yocum	9/22/2009	8:37 PM	@mbteach Twinglish is OK sometimes! I actually enjoy the cerebral challenge of 140 characters at a time to complete a thought! #edchat
mbteach	9/22/2009	8:37 PM	@ToughLoveforX as learners/teachers we need to know how to sort through the 'trash' #edchat
tonnet	9/22/2009	8:37 PM	RT @web20classroom A great guide on how to use all available Google Apps to create ePortfolios....http://is.gd/3yXIP #edchat
annyem	9/22/2009	8:37 PM	Reading comments in #edchat
rjwassink	9/22/2009	8:37 PM	@denabud hahaha... my first year in college ('96) we'd have complete ICQ conversations with these things. I had no idea #edchat

#edchat Session - Tuesday, 9/22/2009

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